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like poems without lungs

  • Feb. 11th, 2009 at 12:56 PM









shallow graves for eyes

with bereft hearts

 

tapping fingertip regrets

like letters of the alphabet

 

words like qwert look like words

which have no meaning

 

(like poems without lungs)

no longer sing but look like poems

 

words are corpses

and metaphors are bones:

 

refuse to settle into dust

refuse to settle into dust

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[info]montecristo wrote:
Feb. 12th, 2009 01:06 am (UTC)
This is very koan-like...
Are words without meaning words at all?
[info]prettypoet43 wrote:
Feb. 12th, 2009 04:34 am (UTC)
Re: This is very koan-like...
Not sure exactly what a koan is even after looking it up-- oh well
[info]montecristo wrote:
Feb. 12th, 2009 08:29 am (UTC)
Re: This is very koan-like... Poets priests and politicians, have words to thank for their positions
A koan is a thought or concept which may not be apprehended rationally but may be grasped on an intuitive basis. The Buddhists use them for meditation. Have you heard the old chestnut about "the sound of one hand, clapping"? That's a koan. Your observation about words without meaning brought the idea of a koan to mind. Surely, a word which has no meaning is not a word, is it? It would just be a collection of letters, would it not? The thing that gives a word existence, as a word is meaning. Rationally, without meaning, words are just sounds and symbols, are they not? Is "qwert" really a word? And yet... We all know what a "Qwerty" keyboard is, as distinguished from a Dvorak keyboard, and intuition informs us that we all are aware of encountering nonsense "words" which hold place in our literature, music, and poetry and yet which have no actual meaning, don't we. "Higglety-piggelty," "brillig," and "vorpal" come to mind, as well as "fiddle-dee-dee" and "de do do do, de da da da".

Edited at 2009-02-12 08:49 am (UTC)
[info]emmabovary wrote:
Feb. 12th, 2009 11:16 am (UTC)
Re: This is very koan-like... Poets priests and politicians, have words to thank for their positions
The thing that gives a word existence, as a word is meaning.

Actually, I would put forth the idea that the thing that gives a word existence is context, not meaning. Context breaths life into the collection of letters, and humans process language through context.
[info]montecristo wrote:
Feb. 12th, 2009 03:21 pm (UTC)
They're only checques I've left unsigned, from the banks of chaos in my mind...
Ahem! Scrounging up best old-guy-Chinese Kung-fu master voice:
Excellent, Grasshopper! Indeed, context trumps meaning, for context can warp the dictionary meaning of a word into its own dictionary antonym, if the writer uses it carefully. I stand corrected.
[info]emmabovary wrote:
Feb. 12th, 2009 03:35 pm (UTC)
Re: They're only checques I've left unsigned, from the banks of chaos in my mind...
...important to think about, too, as one reads Emily's poem. If we didn't know the context, the words, while still meaningful, would be less so...indeed confusing.
[info]prettypoet43 wrote:
Feb. 12th, 2009 03:58 pm (UTC)
Re: They're only checques I've left unsigned, from the banks of chaos in my mind...
Burke says that words are "symbolic action.' They really only derive meaning from their "context" and then, of course, the context and meaning that you as the reader bring to them. That is why meaning and interpretation are so subjective and up for grabs. I guess I was trying to play here with the concept that words and meaning and people die together-- because the context is completely changed when the breath is extinguished.

[info]mrsbennett wrote:
Feb. 12th, 2009 03:21 am (UTC)
Did you write this? It's very good.
[info]prettypoet43 wrote:
Feb. 12th, 2009 04:33 am (UTC)
Yes. I wrote it this afternoon. Just trying to process the death of a poet...still...
[info]sonoran_scrawl wrote:
Feb. 13th, 2009 03:05 am (UTC)
oh so sad. i am still processing too. i am glad you are writing tho, it is healing and this is beautifully written.
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